Das Gerät ist optisch und technisch in guten Zustand. Die originale BDA ist dabei.

JVC XL-V141TN CD Compact Disc Player Tested and Working Great Preowned. No remote. Some minor scratching to exterior throughout but still looks and sounds great. We aim to capture all imperfections so please see all photos for actual condition.

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A JVC XL-V118BK Single Disc Compact Disc CD Player NO REMOTE! WE CONSIDER THIS UNIT TO BE:C-C3 F3 (Moderate use and age) FAIR COSMETIC CONDITION, THIS DEVICE HAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNS OF COSMETIC DEFECT (SCRATCHES) PLEASE SEE PICTURES!POWER TESTED ONLY!! FOR PARTS OR AS IS!! CAME OUT OF A WORKING ENVIRONMENT!! NO REMOTE!! NO ADDITIONAL HARDWARE OR COMPONENTS WILL BE INCLUDED! PLEASE SEE PICTURES! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHIPPING YOUR COMBO PLAYER! Vantage Point I.T.A.D. is an R2 V3 Certified CompanyWe are a global provider of innovative and environmentally friendly strategies for the remarketing and recycling of information technology hardware. We strive for continual opportunity to grow our business practices through education and commitment to excellence. ***SEE STORE FOR DETAILED GRADING*** All of our items are backed by a 30 day (from day of delivery) money back guarantee. (exclusions do apply)If there is something wrong with your item PLEASE message us first and allow us to correct any possible mistake.Our grading scale is reflective of the cosmetic condition of the items, please note the individual descriptions and pictures where applicable. We do not embellish descriptions, we try our best to accurately describe anything wrong with the item, but we are not experts in the devices.Items sold FOR PARTS/REPAIR are described to the best of our knowledge. Any changes to the invoice must be requested prior to paymentThank you for shopping and we look forward to meeting and hopefully exceeding your expectations!FAQ Q. What do I do if there is a problem with my order? A. Contact us immediately, we are here to help! Any issue we strive to rectify any possible issue with our valued clientele as soon as we are able! Please reach out to us! Q. When will my order ship? A. The day after the order is paid at 3pm CST. Friday shipments may go out same day but are not guaranteed. Our hours of operation are Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Q. Does Vantage Point I.T.A.D. ship internationally? A. Only through Ebay GSP. All shipments (except those that go to a P.O. box) will be processed through FedEx.Q. Does my product come with any additional hardware, components or cables? A. Please check the description as all of this information will be covered, any cables or components will be specifically described and pictured!Q. Can I change the address after purchase? A. Shipping address cannot be changed after purchase. We will not ship to unverified addresses.

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Single Compact Disc JVC Vintage CD Player XL-V114 No Remote Tested Ships Free

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A JVC XL-V118BK Single Disc Compact Disc CD Player NO REMOTE! WE CONSIDER THIS UNIT TO BE:C-C3 F3 (Moderate use and age) FAIR COSMETIC CONDITION, THIS DEVICE HAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNS OF COSMETIC DEFECT (SCRATCHES) PLEASE SEE PICTURES!POWER TESTED ONLY!! FOR PARTS OR AS IS!! CAME OUT OF A WORKING ENVIRONMENT!! NO REMOTE!! NO ADDITIONAL HARDWARE OR COMPONENTS WILL BE INCLUDED! PLEASE SEE PICTURES! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHIPPING YOUR COMBO PLAYER! Vantage Point I.T.A.D. is an R2 V3 Certified CompanyWe are a global provider of innovative and environmentally friendly strategies for the remarketing and recycling of information technology hardware. We strive for continual opportunity to grow our business practices through education and commitment to excellence. ***SEE STORE FOR DETAILED GRADING*** All of our items are backed by a 30 day (from day of delivery) money back guarantee. (exclusions do apply)If there is something wrong with your item PLEASE message us first and allow us to correct any possible mistake.Our grading scale is reflective of the cosmetic condition of the items, please note the individual descriptions and pictures where applicable. We do not embellish descriptions, we try our best to accurately describe anything wrong with the item, but we are not experts in the devices.Items sold FOR PARTS/REPAIR are described to the best of our knowledge. Any changes to the invoice must be requested prior to paymentThank you for shopping and we look forward to meeting and hopefully exceeding your expectations!FAQ Q. What do I do if there is a problem with my order? A. Contact us immediately, we are here to help! Any issue we strive to rectify any possible issue with our valued clientele as soon as we are able! Please reach out to us! Q. When will my order ship? A. The day after the order is paid at 3pm CST. Friday shipments may go out same day but are not guaranteed. Our hours of operation are Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Q. Does Vantage Point I.T.A.D. ship internationally? A. Only through Ebay GSP. All shipments (except those that go to a P.O. box) will be processed through FedEx.Q. Does my product come with any additional hardware, components or cables? A. Please check the description as all of this information will be covered, any cables or components will be specifically described and pictured!Q. Can I change the address after purchase? A. Shipping address cannot be changed after purchase. We will not ship to unverified addresses.

Vintage 1990 JVC XL-V131BK CD Player - Lecteur Compact Disc vendu en l tat.

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A JVC XL-V118BK Single Disc Compact Disc CD Player NO REMOTE! WE CONSIDER THIS UNIT TO BE:C-C3 F3 (Moderate use and age) FAIR COSMETIC CONDITION, THIS DEVICE HAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNS OF COSMETIC DEFECT (SCRATCHES) PLEASE SEE PICTURES!POWER TESTED ONLY!! FOR PARTS OR AS IS!! CAME OUT OF A WORKING ENVIRONMENT!! NO REMOTE!! NO ADDITIONAL HARDWARE OR COMPONENTS WILL BE INCLUDED! PLEASE SEE PICTURES! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHIPPING YOUR COMBO PLAYER! Vantage Point I.T.A.D. is an R2 V3 Certified CompanyWe are a global provider of innovative and environmentally friendly strategies for the remarketing and recycling of information technology hardware. We strive for continual opportunity to grow our business practices through education and commitment to excellence. ***SEE STORE FOR DETAILED GRADING*** All of our items are backed by a 30 day (from day of delivery) money back guarantee. (exclusions do apply)If there is something wrong with your item PLEASE message us first and allow us to correct any possible mistake.Our grading scale is reflective of the cosmetic condition of the items, please note the individual descriptions and pictures where applicable. We do not embellish descriptions, we try our best to accurately describe anything wrong with the item, but we are not experts in the devices.Items sold FOR PARTS/REPAIR are described to the best of our knowledge. Any changes to the invoice must be requested prior to paymentThank you for shopping and we look forward to meeting and hopefully exceeding your expectations!FAQ Q. What do I do if there is a problem with my order? A. Contact us immediately, we are here to help! Any issue we strive to rectify any possible issue with our valued clientele as soon as we are able! Please reach out to us! Q. When will my order ship? A. The day after the order is paid at 3pm CST. Friday shipments may go out same day but are not guaranteed. Our hours of operation are Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Q. Does Vantage Point I.T.A.D. ship internationally? A. Only through Ebay GSP. All shipments (except those that go to a P.O. box) will be processed through FedEx.Q. Does my product come with any additional hardware, components or cables? A. Please check the description as all of this information will be covered, any cables or components will be specifically described and pictured!Q. Can I change the address after purchase? A. Shipping address cannot be changed after purchase. We will not ship to unverified addresses.

Introducing the JVC XL-V101 Compact Disc CD Player, a reliable and high-quality addition to your Hi-Fi system. This CD player boasts a sleek design and exceptional performance, perfect for music lovers who demand the best. With its advanced features and compatibility with various CDs, you can enjoy your favorite music with outstanding clarity and precision. The JVC XL-V101 is a must-have for anyone who enjoys a superior sound experience. Fully tested and cleaned. All in good working condition. If you have any questions regarding this item or would like further photos please ask- we are always happy to help:) Please click This N That | eBay Stores to see our other listings. Delivery for this item is via 48 hour courier, its also open for worldwide shipping via Ebays gsp programme - alternatively all items are available to be collected from our High street shop in Bletchley Milton Keynes. Please note this is a zero VAT sale

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A JVC XL-V118BK Single Disc Compact Disc CD Player NO REMOTE! WE CONSIDER THIS UNIT TO BE:C-C3 F3 (Moderate use and age) FAIR COSMETIC CONDITION, THIS DEVICE HAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNS OF COSMETIC DEFECT (SCRATCHES) PLEASE SEE PICTURES!POWER TESTED ONLY!! FOR PARTS OR AS IS!! CAME OUT OF A WORKING ENVIRONMENT!! NO REMOTE!! NO ADDITIONAL HARDWARE OR COMPONENTS WILL BE INCLUDED! PLEASE SEE PICTURES! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHIPPING YOUR COMBO PLAYER! Vantage Point I.T.A.D. is an R2 V3 Certified CompanyWe are a global provider of innovative and environmentally friendly strategies for the remarketing and recycling of information technology hardware. We strive for continual opportunity to grow our business practices through education and commitment to excellence. ***SEE STORE FOR DETAILED GRADING*** All of our items are backed by a 30 day (from day of delivery) money back guarantee. (exclusions do apply)If there is something wrong with your item PLEASE message us first and allow us to correct any possible mistake.Our grading scale is reflective of the cosmetic condition of the items, please note the individual descriptions and pictures where applicable. We do not embellish descriptions, we try our best to accurately describe anything wrong with the item, but we are not experts in the devices.Items sold FOR PARTS/REPAIR are described to the best of our knowledge. Any changes to the invoice must be requested prior to paymentThank you for shopping and we look forward to meeting and hopefully exceeding your expectations!FAQ Q. What do I do if there is a problem with my order? A. Contact us immediately, we are here to help! Any issue we strive to rectify any possible issue with our valued clientele as soon as we are able! Please reach out to us! Q. When will my order ship? A. The day after the order is paid at 3pm CST. Friday shipments may go out same day but are not guaranteed. Our hours of operation are Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Q. Does Vantage Point I.T.A.D. ship internationally? A. Only through Ebay GSP. All shipments (except those that go to a P.O. box) will be processed through FedEx.Q. Does my product come with any additional hardware, components or cables? A. Please check the description as all of this information will be covered, any cables or components will be specifically described and pictured!Q. Can I change the address after purchase? A. Shipping address cannot be changed after purchase. We will not ship to unverified addresses.

Vintage JVC Single Compact Disc CD Player With Headphone, RCA, & Compu Link Synchro Output MODEL: XL-V141TN (XL-V141) COLOR: BLACK Measures 18 wide x 11 depth x 5 tall (with feet) EXCELLENT CONDITION No dents, no faded buttons, no rust or corrosion. TESTED AND WORKING Tray opens and closes without issue. All buttons perform their functions. Discs play without issue. Output ports working normally. SHIPS OUT SAME DAY Check out my store for more great kitchen wares, electronics, plus vintage and hard to find items. Im adding new inventory daily, so be sure to follow or check back for more! Thanks for stopping by! :)

Vintage 1994 JVC Single CD Player XL-V161 Excellent Condition / See Pics!! ( Remote Not Included ) Fully Tested / Works Perfect You will receive the exact item in pics above This JVC XL-V161 CD player is a top-of-the-line model that is sure to meet all of your audio needs. With its advanced D/A converter and DD recording processor, you can be sure that your music will sound crisp and clear. The player is compatible with a variety of media formats, including CDs, and has a CD changer capacity of 1. In addition to its impressive audio capabilities, this CD player also features a headphone jack and stereo L/R RCA audio outputs for versatile connectivity options. Its sleek gray design and compact size make it a great addition to any home audio setup. Thank You!!

Hier im Angebot ein JVC XL-V174 CD-Player in Schwarz. Dieser muss hier als defekt angeboten werden, da man ein Klack-Geräusch hört, so als wenn der Motor des Antriebs defekt wäre. Discs werden daher gar nicht erst eingelesen. Daher wird das Gerät als defekt für Bastler oder Ersatzteilspender angeboten. Alle von mir angebotenen Artikel befinden sich auf Lager und werden umgehend nach Zahlungseingang versendet (meist innerhalb von 24 Stunden), dies können Sie an meinen zufriedenen Kunden erkennen. elister3

This vintage JVC CD player is a great addition to any home audio setup. With its sleek black design and capacity to play a single CD, it's perfect for listening to your favorite albums. The player features stereo L/R audio outputs and is tested and confirmed to be in working condition. The JVC XL-V114 CD player is a classic piece of technology, made in Singapore and capable of playing CD format media. Its compact size and stylish appearance make it an excellent choice for those who want to enjoy high-quality audio without sacrificing space or appearance. Please note that this item does not come with a remote.

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A JVC XL-V118BK Single Disc Compact Disc CD Player NO REMOTE! WE CONSIDER THIS UNIT TO BE:C-C3 F3 (Moderate use and age) FAIR COSMETIC CONDITION, THIS DEVICE HAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNS OF COSMETIC DEFECT (SCRATCHES) PLEASE SEE PICTURES!POWER TESTED ONLY!! FOR PARTS OR AS IS!! CAME OUT OF A WORKING ENVIRONMENT!! NO REMOTE!! NO ADDITIONAL HARDWARE OR COMPONENTS WILL BE INCLUDED! PLEASE SEE PICTURES! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHIPPING YOUR COMBO PLAYER! Vantage Point I.T.A.D. is an R2 V3 Certified CompanyWe are a global provider of innovative and environmentally friendly strategies for the remarketing and recycling of information technology hardware. We strive for continual opportunity to grow our business practices through education and commitment to excellence. ***SEE STORE FOR DETAILED GRADING*** All of our items are backed by a 30 day (from day of delivery) money back guarantee. (exclusions do apply)If there is something wrong with your item PLEASE message us first and allow us to correct any possible mistake.Our grading scale is reflective of the cosmetic condition of the items, please note the individual descriptions and pictures where applicable. We do not embellish descriptions, we try our best to accurately describe anything wrong with the item, but we are not experts in the devices.Items sold FOR PARTS/REPAIR are described to the best of our knowledge. Any changes to the invoice must be requested prior to paymentThank you for shopping and we look forward to meeting and hopefully exceeding your expectations!FAQ Q. What do I do if there is a problem with my order? A. Contact us immediately, we are here to help! Any issue we strive to rectify any possible issue with our valued clientele as soon as we are able! Please reach out to us! Q. When will my order ship? A. The day after the order is paid at 3pm CST. Friday shipments may go out same day but are not guaranteed. Our hours of operation are Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Q. Does Vantage Point I.T.A.D. ship internationally? A. Only through Ebay GSP. All shipments (except those that go to a P.O. box) will be processed through FedEx.Q. Does my product come with any additional hardware, components or cables? A. Please check the description as all of this information will be covered, any cables or components will be specifically described and pictured!Q. Can I change the address after purchase? A. Shipping address cannot be changed after purchase. We will not ship to unverified addresses.

JVC XL-V152 Compact Disc CD Player HiFi Spieler V 152 Audio Sound 20-003 Funktioniert prima, Kratzer und Gebrauchsspuren vorhanden. Ohne weiteres Zubehör. Machen Sie gerne einen Preisvorschlag.,

JVC Dual Converter System CD Compact Disc Player XL-V112 No Remote There are multiple shipping options at checkout - choose which one works best for you(there is a noise in the video which is my sweaty arm sticking to the tabletop - sorry live in FL)!!! JVC Dual Converter System CD Player XL -V112BK 1993 No remote Video will open in a new window Using the mobile app? Copy this link into your browser: All items have been cleaned per eBay standards & policies

Biete meinen alten und voll funktionsfähigen CD Player an. Muss wegen Umzug ins Ausland mein gesamtes Haus ausräumen.

Normal 0 21 false false false DE X-NONE X-NONE JVC CD Player XL-V120 Gebraucht, Funktion einwandfrei. Wir sind ein tierfreier Nichtraucher-Haushalt. Sie können gerne einen Preisvorschlag machen. Wir werden uns bestimmt einigen können. Es gibt weder Kaufbeleg noch Rechnung. Zur Beachtung: Ab dem 01.01.2002 haftet ein Verkäufer grundsätzlich bei Neuwaren zwei Jahre lang für Sachmängel und ein Jahr bei Gebrauchtwaren. Als Privatverkäufer kann man im Rahmen der Vertragsfreiheit seine Gewährleistungspflicht ausschließen und haftet dann nicht mehr gemäß § 437 BGB (§ 444 BGB). Somit distanziere ich mich hiermit ausdrücklich von jeglicher Gewährleistung, Produkt- oder Sachmängelleistung und schließe diese für meinen Verkauf im Zusammenhang mit Ebay aus! Das Rückgaberecht nach dem Fernabsatzgesetz wird ebenso ausdrücklich ausgeschlossen, genauso wie Nachverhandlungen bei Verkaufspreis und/oder Versandkosten. Das Versandrisiko trägt der Käufer. Umtausch oder Rücknahme ist nicht möglich. Die Angaben in dieser Artikel-Beschreibung wurden von mir nach bestem Wissen und Gewissen gemacht, dennoch erfolgen alle Angaben ohne Gewähr, Irrtum vorbehalten. Bitte bieten Sie nur, wenn Sie mit diesen Bedingungen einverstanden sind!

This vintage JVC CD player is a great addition to any home audio setup. With its sleek black design and capacity to play a single CD, it's perfect for listening to your favorite albums. The player features stereo L/R audio outputs and is tested and confirmed to be in working condition. The JVC XL-V114 CD player is a classic piece of technology, made in Singapore and capable of playing CD format media. Its compact size and stylish appearance make it an excellent choice for those who want to enjoy high-quality audio without sacrificing space or appearance. Please note that this item does not come with a remote.

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A JVC XL-V118BK Single Disc Compact Disc CD Player NO REMOTE! WE CONSIDER THIS UNIT TO BE:C-C3 F3 (Moderate use and age) FAIR COSMETIC CONDITION, THIS DEVICE HAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNS OF COSMETIC DEFECT (SCRATCHES) PLEASE SEE PICTURES!POWER TESTED ONLY!! FOR PARTS OR AS IS!! CAME OUT OF A WORKING ENVIRONMENT!! NO REMOTE!! NO ADDITIONAL HARDWARE OR COMPONENTS WILL BE INCLUDED! PLEASE SEE PICTURES! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHIPPING YOUR COMBO PLAYER! Vantage Point I.T.A.D. is an R2 V3 Certified CompanyWe are a global provider of innovative and environmentally friendly strategies for the remarketing and recycling of information technology hardware. We strive for continual opportunity to grow our business practices through education and commitment to excellence. ***SEE STORE FOR DETAILED GRADING*** All of our items are backed by a 30 day (from day of delivery) money back guarantee. (exclusions do apply)If there is something wrong with your item PLEASE message us first and allow us to correct any possible mistake.Our grading scale is reflective of the cosmetic condition of the items, please note the individual descriptions and pictures where applicable. We do not embellish descriptions, we try our best to accurately describe anything wrong with the item, but we are not experts in the devices.Items sold FOR PARTS/REPAIR are described to the best of our knowledge. Any changes to the invoice must be requested prior to paymentThank you for shopping and we look forward to meeting and hopefully exceeding your expectations!FAQ Q. What do I do if there is a problem with my order? A. Contact us immediately, we are here to help! Any issue we strive to rectify any possible issue with our valued clientele as soon as we are able! Please reach out to us! Q. When will my order ship? A. The day after the order is paid at 3pm CST. Friday shipments may go out same day but are not guaranteed. Our hours of operation are Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Q. Does Vantage Point I.T.A.D. ship internationally? A. Only through Ebay GSP. All shipments (except those that go to a P.O. box) will be processed through FedEx.Q. Does my product come with any additional hardware, components or cables? A. Please check the description as all of this information will be covered, any cables or components will be specifically described and pictured!Q. Can I change the address after purchase? A. Shipping address cannot be changed after purchase. We will not ship to unverified addresses.

Normal 0 21 false false false DE X-NONE X-NONE JVC CD Player XL-V120 Gebraucht, Funktion einwandfrei. Wir sind ein tierfreier Nichtraucher-Haushalt. Sie können gerne einen Preisvorschlag machen. Wir werden uns bestimmt einigen können. Es gibt weder Kaufbeleg noch Rechnung. Zur Beachtung: Ab dem 01.01.2002 haftet ein Verkäufer grundsätzlich bei Neuwaren zwei Jahre lang für Sachmängel und ein Jahr bei Gebrauchtwaren. Als Privatverkäufer kann man im Rahmen der Vertragsfreiheit seine Gewährleistungspflicht ausschließen und haftet dann nicht mehr gemäß § 437 BGB (§ 444 BGB). Somit distanziere ich mich hiermit ausdrücklich von jeglicher Gewährleistung, Produkt- oder Sachmängelleistung und schließe diese für meinen Verkauf im Zusammenhang mit Ebay aus! Das Rückgaberecht nach dem Fernabsatzgesetz wird ebenso ausdrücklich ausgeschlossen, genauso wie Nachverhandlungen bei Verkaufspreis und/oder Versandkosten. Das Versandrisiko trägt der Käufer. Umtausch oder Rücknahme ist nicht möglich. Die Angaben in dieser Artikel-Beschreibung wurden von mir nach bestem Wissen und Gewissen gemacht, dennoch erfolgen alle Angaben ohne Gewähr, Irrtum vorbehalten. Bitte bieten Sie nur, wenn Sie mit diesen Bedingungen einverstanden sind!

YOU ARE BIDDING ON A JVC XL-V118BK Single Disc Compact Disc CD Player NO REMOTE! WE CONSIDER THIS UNIT TO BE:C-C3 F3 (Moderate use and age) FAIR COSMETIC CONDITION, THIS DEVICE HAS SIGNIFICANT SIGNS OF COSMETIC DEFECT (SCRATCHES) PLEASE SEE PICTURES!POWER TESTED ONLY!! FOR PARTS OR AS IS!! CAME OUT OF A WORKING ENVIRONMENT!! NO REMOTE!! NO ADDITIONAL HARDWARE OR COMPONENTS WILL BE INCLUDED! PLEASE SEE PICTURES! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHIPPING YOUR COMBO PLAYER! Vantage Point I.T.A.D. is an R2 V3 Certified CompanyWe are a global provider of innovative and environmentally friendly strategies for the remarketing and recycling of information technology hardware. We strive for continual opportunity to grow our business practices through education and commitment to excellence. ***SEE STORE FOR DETAILED GRADING*** All of our items are backed by a 30 day (from day of delivery) money back guarantee. (exclusions do apply)If there is something wrong with your item PLEASE message us first and allow us to correct any possible mistake.Our grading scale is reflective of the cosmetic condition of the items, please note the individual descriptions and pictures where applicable. We do not embellish descriptions, we try our best to accurately describe anything wrong with the item, but we are not experts in the devices.Items sold FOR PARTS/REPAIR are described to the best of our knowledge. Any changes to the invoice must be requested prior to paymentThank you for shopping and we look forward to meeting and hopefully exceeding your expectations!FAQ Q. What do I do if there is a problem with my order? A. Contact us immediately, we are here to help! Any issue we strive to rectify any possible issue with our valued clientele as soon as we are able! Please reach out to us! Q. When will my order ship? A. The day after the order is paid at 3pm CST. Friday shipments may go out same day but are not guaranteed. Our hours of operation are Monday-Friday 8am-5pm CST. Q. Does Vantage Point I.T.A.D. ship internationally? A. Only through Ebay GSP. All shipments (except those that go to a P.O. box) will be processed through FedEx.Q. Does my product come with any additional hardware, components or cables? A. Please check the description as all of this information will be covered, any cables or components will be specifically described and pictured!Q. Can I change the address after purchase? A. Shipping address cannot be changed after purchase. We will not ship to unverified addresses.

Der JVC XL-V101 BK CD-Player ist in gebrauchtem Zustand und berzeugt durch seine zuverlssige Funktion. Mit seiner schwarzen Farbe und dem schlanken Design passt er perfekt in jedes Heim-Audio-Setup. Das Modell punktet durch eine einfache Bedienung und eine klare Klangqualitt. Der CD Player funktioniert noch. Die Gerteoberseite (siehe Fotos) ist teilweise etwas verkratzt. Privatverkauf Umtausch und Rckgabe sind leider nicht mglich.